Comments on: Anti-Semitism, Tribalism, Irrationalism & the Postal Workers Union http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/ Reality, Reason, Self, Consent, Capitalism Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:26:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Vid Kini http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Vid Kini Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:21:59 +0000 http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/#comment-152 Paul, I have watched your videos (Youtube) on Money and the finance system, and I highly respect your thoughts, however I think that you are dead wrong on Palestine-Israel issue. To be sure I am against Hamas. They are a despicable lot, who use terror to control their population. Somewhat reminiscent of the Taliban, the Iranian regime and plenty of other nasties out there. But to endorse Israeli bombing I think is a step too far. The real point is that has to be another solution! Or else we are truly doomed. If as a world we cannot solve the issues of ancient nomadic tribes, then what can we solve?! If we are to call the whole Muslim world irrational and worthy of bombing then perhaps we are truly all doomed. The solution (as always) in my opinion, at least, has to come from within, not from without. In you own words you have described this a fight between the pillars of "Collectivism and Individualism". Perhaps we should redefine it as a war between those who are allowed to think and act freely and those who are forced into a position. I believe that in the majority of the Muslim world, that includes Pakistan, Iran, Palestine, etc... the populations are 'forced' into certain types of thinking and acting that perhaps we would all display should our education have been limited and the threat of violence leveled against us. And in these cases 'democracy' fails, it is a 'coerced democracy'. Bombing everyone is the wrong solution to this problem as human lives are short and our ability to be indoctrinated, 'infinite'. There has to be another way, and perhaps some smart enough can find it. Paul,

I have watched your videos (Youtube) on Money and the finance system, and I highly respect your thoughts, however I think that you are dead wrong on Palestine-Israel issue.

To be sure I am against Hamas. They are a despicable lot, who use terror to control their population. Somewhat reminiscent of the Taliban, the Iranian regime and plenty of other nasties out there.

But to endorse Israeli bombing I think is a step too far.

The real point is that has to be another solution! Or else we are truly doomed. If as a world we cannot solve the issues of ancient nomadic tribes, then what can we solve?!

If we are to call the whole Muslim world irrational and worthy of bombing then perhaps we are truly all doomed.

The solution (as always) in my opinion, at least, has to come from within, not from without.

In you own words you have described this a fight between the pillars of “Collectivism and Individualism”.

Perhaps we should redefine it as a war between those who are allowed to think and act freely and those who are forced into a position.

I believe that in the majority of the Muslim world, that includes Pakistan, Iran, Palestine, etc… the populations are ‘forced’ into certain types of thinking and acting that perhaps we would all display should our education have been limited and the threat of violence leveled against us. And in these cases ‘democracy’ fails, it is a ‘coerced democracy’.

Bombing everyone is the wrong solution to this problem as human lives are short and our ability to be indoctrinated, ‘infinite’.

There has to be another way, and perhaps some smart enough can find it.

]]> By: Luke http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Luke Wed, 28 May 2008 21:29:50 +0000 http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/#comment-151 Boy if there is one argument that reveals a lot of disgusting things about someone's ideas and psychology, it's when someone says sarcastically, "Ohhh so you've got all the answers dontcha!" There are, of course, many variations of that same argument, such as (spoken with a tone of accusation), "You think you're sooo right!" Really these kind of platitudes can't be described as arguments, they're more like attacks. Or, "arguments from intimidation" as Ms. Rand referred to them. As if there is something wrong with thinking that you are right??? As if a person should choose to believe the ideas that he thinks are wrong rather than those he thinks are right??? It's ethical altruism pushing its way into epistemology! Or am I reversing cause and effect? Great job though Paul, keep it up! Luke Boy if there is one argument that reveals a lot of disgusting things about someone’s ideas and psychology, it’s when someone says sarcastically, “Ohhh so you’ve got all the answers dontcha!” There are, of course, many variations of that same argument, such as (spoken with a tone of accusation), “You think you’re sooo right!” Really these kind of platitudes can’t be described as arguments, they’re more like attacks. Or, “arguments from intimidation” as Ms. Rand referred to them.

As if there is something wrong with thinking that you are right??? As if a person should choose to believe the ideas that he thinks are wrong rather than those he thinks are right??? It’s ethical altruism pushing its way into epistemology! Or am I reversing cause and effect?

Great job though Paul, keep it up!

Luke

]]> By: McKeever http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/comment-page-1/#comment-150 McKeever Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:36:20 +0000 http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/#comment-150 Thanks for that Brad. Given the mandatory nature of membership in the union for people who work for the postal service, I cannot, and would not, paint all members with the same brush. All the best, Paul Thanks for that Brad. Given the mandatory nature of membership in the union for people who work for the postal service, I cannot, and would not, paint all members with the same brush.

All the best,

Paul

]]> By: Brad Woods http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Brad Woods Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:30:27 +0000 http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/04/30/anti-semitism-tribalism-irrationalism-the-postal-workers-union/#comment-149 I would like to start by saying I am a postal worker. I like most of my coworkers do not support this resolution and a lot of the "Have-to-Be-Left" actions taken by our union. The members who voted on this issue are a select group of people and are usually swept up in the Tribalistic Moment during votes like these. I would like to say though I don't believe the People are Anti-Semetic. They mean well. They just Think differently than we do. Brad I would like to start by saying I am a postal worker. I like most of my coworkers do not support this resolution and a lot of the “Have-to-Be-Left” actions taken by our union. The members who voted on this issue are a select group of people and are usually swept up in the Tribalistic Moment during votes like these.

I would like to say though I don’t believe the People are Anti-Semetic. They mean well. They just Think differently than we do.

Brad

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