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	<title>Paul McKeever &#187; revenue neutral</title>
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		<title>Beer, Gas &amp; Leviathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul McKeever</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My September 13th article and video &#8220;Canada’s 2008 Election: Green? Shift?&#8221; led one of my FaceBook friends, Alex, to make the following comment: Just watched your carbon tax video &#8211; you completely botched your economics. You assume that the only thing you can spend post-tax money on is gas, which is blatantly untrue. Now assume [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://030b596.netsolhost.com/blogpmca/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/20080919revenueneutral1.jpg"><img src="http://030b596.netsolhost.com/blogpmca/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/20080919revenueneutral1.jpg" alt="" title="20080919revenueneutral" width="290" height="412" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-384" /></a>My September 13th article and video &#8220;<a href="http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2008/09/13/green-shift-not-green-no-shift/">Canada’s 2008 Election: Green? Shift?</a>&#8221; led one of my FaceBook friends, Alex, to make the following comment:<span id="more-374"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Just watched your carbon tax video &#8211; you completely botched your economics. You assume that the only thing you can spend post-tax money on is gas, which is blatantly untrue. Now assume two goods &#8211; gas and beer (and, to keep them separate, assume this is beer brewed locally from hops and barley grown locally &#8211; no gas, all walking).</p>
<p>Before the carbon tax, the average person spends 1 &#8220;dime&#8221; on gas and 1 on beer, and that half the people prefer each good when forced to choose. After the tax, the gas-preferrers will spend 3 &#8220;dimes&#8221; on gas and get 1 unit of it, paying 4 in tax, and the beer-preferrers will spend 3 dimes on beer and pay 2 in tax. The government still gets its 3 per person, but gas consumption has been cut in half, because when gas is more expensive people will shift their consumption to beer.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not defending Dion&#8217;s plan &#8211; it is quite explicitly a tax hike, with $5B or so in new spending. But there&#8217;s nothing wrong with a gas tax in theory.</p></blockquote>
<p>I responded as follows:</p>
<p>Alex, my economics are not botched. You just think I was talking about something I was <em>not</em> talking about: the idea that Dion&#8217;s plan is &#8220;revenue neutral&#8221;.</p>
<p>My point, in the video, was this: Dion is falsely implying &#8211; with every &#8220;it&#8217;s simple, decrease income taxes, shift to pollution&#8221; &#8211; that his plan will not change <em>any</em> individual&#8217;s total tax burden. That&#8217;s false. It will increase the tax burden of those who consume fuel, and decrease the tax burden of those who do not. That is the point of my video: to ensure that people understand that, if the Dion tax does not change ones <em>own</em> tax burden, then the tax does not change behaviour (i.e., it does not decrease the consumption of fossil fuels); that if it does discourage fuel consumption, it does so because it is <em>false</em> that it would not increase your own tax burden.</p>
<p><em>Your</em> example speaks to a different point: the idea that the Dion plan would not change government revenues; that it would be &#8220;revenue neutral&#8221;. Voter X doesn&#8217;t really give a damn about how much money the government has. He cares, instead, about how much money the government is taking from <em>him</em> in particular. Your example shifts the tax burden from beer-drinker Y to gas consumer X, and concludes: See? No harm, no foul.</p>
<p>I say: tell that to X.</p>
<p>I refuse to accept the notion that if one foot is in fire, and the other in ice, Leviathan is comfortably warm. It&#8217;s a collectivist notion, and an entirely evil one.</p>
<p>Finally: When your car runs on beer, call me.</p>
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